tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634821873515289399.post190780129836254349..comments2023-06-07T09:08:45.056+01:00Comments on Phil & Mags Tyler's Blog: The emerging church and revival or vs revival?.Philhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04242884095138166695noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634821873515289399.post-65775512307863078642010-01-26T19:36:45.203+00:002010-01-26T19:36:45.203+00:00Thanks Pinky and Dyfed I suppose I really want to ...Thanks Pinky and Dyfed I suppose I really want to see a shift in my community and nation that is more than social or temporary or limited. in my head/heart there is a 'blurry vision' for heaven on earth and I can only but ponder and then throw my arms up and go it's all about him anyways so I'm off for a snuggle. xxMagshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06673406498180777114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634821873515289399.post-35045173511289740402010-01-26T18:25:33.079+00:002010-01-26T18:25:33.079+00:00Some good thoughts here, Mags. I've been a stu...Some good thoughts here, Mags. I've been a student of historic revivals for many years (1904/05 and esp 1858-60 in Wales). And to be honest I've found myself reading original sources (diaries of revivalists etc) and having a nagging feeling that something was wrong. I'll be trying to re-evaluate these revivals on my site soon.<br />But we do need to do church differently. Be it because of empire or any other malign influence, church has been shaped in a particular way that makes it so ineffective in our day. There has to be room for both social action and supernatural power - for without the second, the church only becomes another social service in the land.<br />God is the business of restoring the whole of creation - saving souls is a vital part of that, but only a part. And so revivals in the way we think of them are maybe a bit narrow in focus. Though there are tales of pubs closing in Wales due to 1904-05 outpouring - it was for a limited period only. Transformation for a season - not for ever.Dyfedhttp://dyfedwynroberts.org.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634821873515289399.post-44528852835558495552010-01-26T09:01:34.493+00:002010-01-26T09:01:34.493+00:00Hate deck chairs, a mare on my back!
A ‘social mov...Hate deck chairs, a mare on my back!<br />A ‘social move’ verses ‘a God pour out’...two things that should be one....something divided against itself cannot stand...boils down to the issue of ‘head’ verses ‘heart’ and ‘word’ verses ‘spirit’. Boils down to little ol’ us and will we stop trying to control God!!<br />Yes, it has to be ‘both, and’ and the only way is Intimacy…which seems to be the stumbling block….an offence even…sounds too much like letting go of the reins!!<br />Enjoy the wild ride Snailywooooohoooo!Pinkypiratehttp://www.pinkypirate.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com